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Hubie
Bronze Level Joined: 16 May 2018 Location: UK Points: 6 |
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Posted: 16 May 2018 at 5:50pm |
Hi,
I have just acquired a 1944 model B which was imported to the UK in 1943. It was registered for use in January 1944. It's in reasonable condition but missing an exhaust. It only has a small hole in the bonnet, is this the right bonnet? It also has 2 tanks, one for petrol and the other for what? We used tractor vaporising oil. What was it built for in the US? Paraffin? Thanks in anticipation.. Hubie
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DiyDave
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 50496 |
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Small tank for gas, large tank for distillate(Kerosene). Start and stop, on gas, runs on kerosene. B's have a small, under-hood muffler, with a short pipe, that comes out that little hole...
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Hubert (Ga)engine7
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Jackson Cnty,GA Points: 6124 |
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Hubie, welcome to the Forum. And X2 on what DiyDave says.
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Just an old country boy saved by the grace of God.
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Hubie
Bronze Level Joined: 16 May 2018 Location: UK Points: 6 |
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Good to know, thank you very much for posting. I'll have a search for the muffler at the weekend.
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Hubie
Bronze Level Joined: 16 May 2018 Location: UK Points: 6 |
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Thanks again!
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Bill Long
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Bel Air, MD Points: 4556 |
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Hubie, Thank you for acquiring my FAVORITE Allis Chalmers Tractor, the B. You will find it to be a very dependable, efficient, and easy to work on. As stated above the two tanks are for gasoline - small tank - and distillate - large tank. You start the tractor on gasoline till it warms up then switch to distillate. I cannot remember my father selling one of these we only used gasoline. The distillate units are rather rare. I would imagine this one was shipped to England for use during WWII. Since gasoline was rationed in the USA and I believe in Great Brittan too it was probably the right unit for the time. Take good care of my favorite. Let us know how it goes.
Enjoy the Royal Wedding this weekend. It is almost all we talk about here. Good Luck! Bill Long Yes, the muffler is an under hood muffler |
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Bill Long
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Bel Air, MD Points: 4556 |
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Thinking a little further about this B, it may be wise to get the serial number - as you know it is to the rear of the gear shift - and compare it to the serial number section of this forum. That will give you the definite date the unit was made. If it was made in 1943 or even early 1944 it could well be a "war-time" unit. That means that there could be some unique parts. For example, stamped steel had military use therefore such stamped steel items like a valve cover or an oil pan could be cast iron. Also, usually these units came through without electric - no starter, generator, or lights and the wiring that went with it. You can tell by a plug in the starter opening, a small triangle by the front of the battery to make the tool box more fitting, and stud holes on the block for a generator. Rubber also was needed for the war so many of these tractors came through with steel wheels. There were also other items such as wider fenders to keep the dust down and higher air cleaner intake pipes to keep away from the dust.
After the war most of the "war-time" items were replaced making the tractor more efficient. Take a good look at the oil pan or the valve cover. Usually these were not replaced. Could be a really special unit. Again, take good care of my favorite. Good Luck! Bill Long ps: By the way if you want an under hood muffler or any other parts, go to some of our forum sponsors. |
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Hubie
Bronze Level Joined: 16 May 2018 Location: UK Points: 6 |
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Hi Bill,
Thanks for that. I really like the old girl. I've found the number, B6 860. I can't see another number. I'll try looking it up. Looking forward to getting her out to do some work. Waiting for a new filter and we'll be away. Thanks again. Hubie
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Hubie
Bronze Level Joined: 16 May 2018 Location: UK Points: 6 |
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Bill, I found the number now, it's clearer on the original registration document. B 64860 which makes it a 1943 model. The 4 on the gearbox was not clear.
Hubie
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Dan Hauter
Orange Level Joined: 06 Feb 2011 Location: Carlinville, IL Points: 1223 |
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Hubie, where in the UK do you live? I have English on my father's side. My grandmother was born in Scotland. My wife, my mom, & I went on a tour of England in 2002. Mom's been to Scotland & Ireland. Wife's been to Ireland. A tour of Scotland is on my bucket list.
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Dbaroso
Bronze Level Joined: 20 May 2018 Location: Merced Ca Points: 1 |
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I recently found and bought what I thought was an Allis Chalmers "B" with a sickle mower and couldn't be more excited. After further inspection the serial number actually starts with the letter C ie. C4526. Am I to assume what I really have is a "C" model?
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chaskaduo
Orange Level Joined: 26 Nov 2016 Location: Twin Cities Points: 5203 |
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Could be a Frankenchalmer. Bs and Cs have a lot of interchangeable parts. It boils down to what you have the most of I guess.
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1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp
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Bill Long
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Bel Air, MD Points: 4556 |
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Basically, the B is a one row tractor with a wide front and one row rear for one row cultivation. The C is a two row tractor usually with a tricycle or narrow front - although there were a few wide front C's available. The real difference is in the wider rear to allow the C to cultivate two usual corn rows. Also, you can identify the C by looking at how the connection to the front steering wheels comes out of the gear box. With the B the Steering arm comes out pointing down, while with the C the steering arm points up. Mechanically they are basically the same tractor with some refinements in the gear ratios. Good Luck! Bill Long
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Bill Long
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Bel Air, MD Points: 4556 |
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If you can post us a picture. Good Luck! Bill Long
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