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    Posted: 22 Nov 2017 at 1:13pm
I have a broken exhaust manifold on my HD16DC the ingine is a 844 but I don’t know for sure.

I really bad need a new manifold, and I are of course able to fabricate a new none, but maybe some of you guys know where to find a new or a spare one. Please let me know. Thanks
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yes 844.   do not think it would be hard to locate a used one here in the US but you may be money ahead to fabricate with transport costs.  all HD16 manifolds prior to Series B with turbos are the same I believe.  early hd21 buda manifold would work as well no turbo.  I actually have 1 but don't care to sell it.
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Do you have a part number for the exhaust manifold
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there's a parked later model 16 (square design) with a fabricated ex manifold on it.The builder put his name on it in weld.Did a decent job.
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Originally posted by SteveM C/IL SteveM C/IL wrote:


there's a parked later model 16 (square design) with a fabricated ex manifold on it.The builder put his name on it in weld.Did a decent job.


Can you get some pictures of that ?
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Originally posted by gemdozer gemdozer wrote:

Do you have a part number for the exhaust manifold


I ned the complete manifold assembly.
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I will start a search Morten.
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When doing your searches be sure to include the engine series number "IE 16,000" along with what your using which is the cubic inch displacement of the engine.
There was several different exhaust manifolds that where used on the "844 cubic engine".
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Thank you and good suggestion.
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Thanks all off you 👍🏻

I hope I can find one, my google search have not been very helpful yet
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SteveM C/IL Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Nov 2017 at 10:54am
I can take a pic next time I'm there but no way of knowing when that will be.It's next to a place I deliver seed to but I don't do the scheduling. Will have to get someone to accept texted photo and put on here. It's in Walnut Grove IL a little N/E of Macomb.

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So far no luck on my search. I have my local Agco shop looking at old dealer inventories as well.

I have a crack on my center section of my exhaust manifold but I'm going to take it off clean it out and braze it when ready. My dealer was able to get me all new gaskets, studs and connection rings new. Still looking for you .
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Re fixing that crack.

Have a look at the Lincoln application dodger for Ferroweld for repairing things like cast iron manifolds.  Went into some detail last time I looked.

A very hard electrode to find in Australia.  A neighbour has a supply and he's repaired the exhaust manifold on our truck exhaust successfully.  It was mentioned for antique vehicle repairs as it rusts like the original whereas nickel repairs don't.


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Mine is not fix able
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Straight stacks and a good set of ear protectors then?
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Oh man,, straight pipes would be ear killers for sure Ian. Would be fun to hear it though.
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Looking still Morten.
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I have a complet exhaust manifold but not the same parts number.
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What are the numbers for your manifold gemdozer?
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What are the numbers for your manifold gemdozer?
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The exhaust manifold parts number are 
center 4367606
left     4365831
right   4366306
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Just a reminder: Just because a number is cast into a part doesn't mean that is the part number, it could be just a "casting" number and the actual part number could be something else. 
AC would sometimes use the same casting for different multiple parts.

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Agreed.

My HD16DC has an engine number of 4393hdc. My same 3 sections of exhaust manifold with parts numbers from my owners parts manual that came with the machine, are different than those listed by our good friend gem dozer.
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Originally posted by gemdozer gemdozer wrote:

I have a complet exhaust manifold but not the same parts number.


What are your asking price for it?
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I’m still looking for a exhaust manifold for my HD16DC 844 engine. The one Gemdozer has is unfortunately broken

Please let me know if you have one guys
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Can you post a picture of your broken manifold? I'm curious how bad it might be.


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Sorry Gemdozer's manifold didn't work out Morten.
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Originally posted by Ferdinand Ferdinand wrote:

Can you post a picture of your broken manifold? I'm curious how bad it might be.


there are 3 holes one in each manifold piece. All 3 holes are about 1x1 inch

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That's pretty bad for sure Morten.

Afraid I am not much help other than to continue to look here in the states for ya.
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This might be a difficult solution but, ...
A couple of years ago I was going to make a custom exhaust system for car. A local company said they could waterjet cut a 3/8" thick steel flange for the header pipes.
I was going to use a tube bender and have the local welding shop make the pipes and weld them to the flange. Quoted cost of the one-off waterjet flange was "less than a hundred dollars".
The welder would charge about $250.00

P.S. Somewhere on Youtube there is a video of a guy making a simple custom exhaust for an International dozer. He took a big steel pipe and made a "log" runner style exhaust.


Edited by Ferdinand - 03 Dec 2017 at 5:15pm
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