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 Posted: 04 Nov 2017 at 5:33am |
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Steve,
if you didn't know "You have a B problem'"! That's a good thing:) Good luck! Sounds like you made the deal already on this one. Hope the journey is a fun trip. Always good to bring home a new project too! Is being close to the ocean air bad for these units?
You may have to start naming them after hurricanes?
Regards,
Chris
Edited by Sugarmaker - 04 Nov 2017 at 9:37pm
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Posted: 04 Nov 2017 at 6:01am |
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Why am I up?, shift work! |
Aaaaah yesss! I almost remember the work thing, don't miss it a bit!:) Keep things moving out there. Regards, Chris
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Posted: 04 Nov 2017 at 6:25am |
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Folks,
Just remembered that I need a clutch foot rest I believe I have one in the vast warehouse. Have to dig around in the Allis parts. One thing I am please with is how this 45 starts! Never a issue so far. Doesn't seem to smoke any, shifts good, no jumping out of third that I have found. got a real good seat, probably a replacement, but in good condition, seat shock works good.
Some other things I need from Sandy Lake.
- Battery box. ( i think the current battery is too big for Std box:()
- Tool box, this one is there but not very good shape.
- Good used quadrant
- plastic quadrant slides
- springs on control levers below quadrant.
- rubber tips for levers
- correct starter switch lever/ assembly
- good used starter pull rod
- good used PTO rod with knob
- good used chain for snap coupler up to lever
Sounds more and more like a restoration project! Yea it needs some detailing for sure!
Regards,
Chris
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IBWD MIke
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Posted: 04 Nov 2017 at 7:08am |
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The wheels look great!
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Posted: 04 Nov 2017 at 7:36am |
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Chris,go to Dollar General and get one of those Icy Hot tens devices that stick on your back. Keeps me crawling on and off machines.
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Posted: 04 Nov 2017 at 8:15am |
exSW wrote:
Chris,go to Dollar General and get one of those Icy Hot tens devices that stick on your back. Keeps me crawling on and off machines. |
Thanks guys, I need something! Have considered the chainsaw but the wife cant get it started! I have one of the tens units. Stopped using it as it was just getting annoying and no real help. Bio-freeze about every two hours. I think I need top shelf whiskey! Regards, Chris
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Posted: 04 Nov 2017 at 8:37am |
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Mike, Thanks! Quick job could have been detailed out more but she will look much better than when I bought her and she was on her knees with both front tires flat. On to try to clean up the hubs today. Cold out paint is not going to dry well. Regards, Chris
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Posted: 04 Nov 2017 at 9:59am |
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You've done a lot in a week without many new parts. Nice job.
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Posted: 04 Nov 2017 at 10:11am |
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Speaking of new parts Cheryl seen the list of parts and said "NO WAY! NOT FOR THAT OLD PIECE OF JUNK", or something like that!
I will try to work them into the budget somehow, or do with out for a while.:) Not my first rodeo!
Making "something out of nothing" has been my MO since I was a kid.
Regards,
Chris
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Posted: 04 Nov 2017 at 11:11am |
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keep it up, Sugarmaker! You have the BEST posts! Thanks!
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sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?"
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Posted: 04 Nov 2017 at 6:35pm |
Jay, Well that was a very nice compliment! I guess I don't try real hard to make them special in any way. But sure glad you enjoy them. We ramble in and out of the weeds and sometimes even discuss orange tractors! Some pictures of the old 45 with upgraded look on the front.  Hub clean up only! still have the grease and dirt on the pedestal. Just not doing the whole tractor right now. Rattle can of Allis orange #1820 Krylon. Pretty close to PO#1.  Wheels/ tires mounted: Much better, just need power steering now!  Was the day to do this painting as rain is coming tomorrow. Found the foot clutch foot plate and installed. Found a WD oil cup. It fits but is shorter. Any reason it wont work if I tighten up the bail?? Checked battery while at fast idle, and it was at 14 volts. Alt is working ok. Also checked that coil and yes it says it has to have a resistor! Went for a mile tractor ride. It doesn't have much play in the front end. Steers better. Oil pressure is good at first and drops off pretty quick after warm. Typical I believe. I would love to tear in to the rear rims and repair and paint them. But probably not this fall! Regards, Chris
Edited by Sugarmaker - 04 Nov 2017 at 6:39pm
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Posted: 04 Nov 2017 at 8:56pm |
Sugarmaker wrote:
Claus wrote:
Why am I up?, shift work! |
Aaaaah
yesss! I almost remember the work thing, don't miss it a bit!:) Keep
things moving out there.
Regards, Chris |
I need to go back to work, I need a rest....... 
Sugarmaker wrote:
Folks,
Just remembered that I need a clutch foot rest I believe I have one in the vast warehouse. Have to dig around in the Allis parts. One thing I am please with is how this 45 starts! Never a issue so far. Doesn't seem to smoke any, shifts good, no jumping out of third that I have found. got a real good seat, probably a replacement, but in good condition, seat shock works good.
Some other things I need from Sandy Lake.
- Battery box. ( i think the current battery is too big for Std box:()
- Tool box, this one is there but not very good shape.
- Good used quadrant
- plastic quadrant slides
- springs on control levers below quadrant.
- rubber tips for levers
- correct starter switch lever/ assembly
- good used starter pull rod
- good used PTO rod with knob
- good used chain for snap coupler up to lever
Sounds more and more like a restoration project! Yea it needs some detailing for sure!
Regards, Chris |
Is this a list of all the things you need Chris?? Maybe you need to do like I did and buy a donor tractor.... hehehe   
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Posted: 04 Nov 2017 at 9:13pm |
Hubnut wrote:
Very nice work Chris. I'm headed south 3 hours to grab another B. Why? I'm trying to catch Ted. |
You've already got me beat, I don't have a B. Just bought another C though... Sure wish I'd a saved my money though, as there is a D-17 in the classifieds WITH a loader and a BACK HOE!!! ALL for only $1500.
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Posted: 04 Nov 2017 at 9:32pm |
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Ted, Folks,
That's my problem there is always another one that comes along that needs saving!
And if you do find a tractor with all the items in place its not a donor tractor its probably a restored tractor, and or your going to pay a lot of money for it. Seems I buy the unwanted lower cost misfits then try to piece them back together!:) Which usually costs just as much as buying a good one, but is a lot more fun!
Regards,
Chris
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Posted: 05 Nov 2017 at 5:18am |
Sugarmaker wrote:
Ted, Folks,
Seems I buy the unwanted lower cost misfits then try to piece them back together!:) Which usually costs just as much as buying a good one, but is a lot more fun!
Regards,
Chris
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Chris, I think I do that too. Usually pay more than if I'd just bought a restored one. However, I find it very satisfying to get a dying tractor and bringing it back to life. Steve
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Posted: 05 Nov 2017 at 6:46am |
Sugarmaker wrote:
Speaking of new parts Cheryl seen the list of parts and said "NO WAY! NOT FOR THAT OLD PIECE OF JUNK", or something like that!
I will try to work them into the budget somehow, or do with out for a while.:) Not my first rodeo!
Making "something out of nothing" has been my MO since I was a kid.
Regards,
Chris
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I must like old pieces of junk because it looks good to me!
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Posted: 05 Nov 2017 at 8:33am |
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Chris,
I think I do that too. Usually pay more than if I'd just bought a restored one. However, I find it very satisfying to get a dying tractor and bringing it back to life.
Steve
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Steve,
Agreed! Its somewhat therapeutic to work on a tractor project. It also keeps the money in the bottom of you wallet for getting old and moldy!
What are your plans for the B you just brought home?
regards,
Chris
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Posted: 05 Nov 2017 at 8:47am |
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Mike,
Its growing on me too. Makes me want to dive right into it. Maybe next spring? Little steps for now. Having done the two WD's I know most of the moves to make it right again.
I do like to grab hold of the curved shifter and ease it into gear. Reminds me of working with the 45's on the farm. If I had a dollar for every time I shifted one of those I would be a rich man in money. Now just a old man rich in memories. Wished I had pictures of Dad working with those worn out WD45's!
back to now:
I think I can save the fenders but they will need some banging on. Like most of the rest of the sheet metal.
Regards,
Chris
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Posted: 05 Nov 2017 at 11:18am |
Folks, The D17 has a new stable mate. Weather has turned yucky with lots of rain and colder for the next few days.  Regards, Chris
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Posted: 06 Nov 2017 at 6:26am |
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I think that's the best picture so far. Love it. Now you just need to line up the WD, WD45, and D17 and snap picture.
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Posted: 06 Nov 2017 at 6:54am |
Dave, If I get a chance I may do that. The wide front WD still looks pretty good and will make these look a little crusty! This 45 is a tractor that needs lot of attention in almost all areas. I guess those are the ones we need to bring back. Maybe its in a little better shape than the WD's when I brought them home! I think I would like the 45 to look like this WD that I gave Nic. A good clean, Repair and paint.  And if I went crazy, I would really like you and DonMO to tutor me on building a good strong (170) engine for this tractor. With some 14.9 Firestones on the rear! And Factory power steering! There I said it!:) Regards, Chris
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That is a nice lookin WD. We're going to have to keep an eye out for a power steering unit. That D17 has ya spoiled.
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Posted: 06 Nov 2017 at 7:45am |
Right there!! Don's got a power steering setup for sale Chris! Does it come with free installation?
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You've already got me beat, I don't have a B. Just bought another C though...
Sure wish I'd a saved my money though, as there is a D-17 in the classifieds WITH a loader and a BACK HOE!!! ALL for only $1500.
If you don't mind where is the D 17 located
Thanks
Harland
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Welcome aboard, ifixjets! Where bout's do you live around OKC? I'm out here halfway between Mustang and Union City with 2 WD's, 1 WD45, and a D17 Series 1 besides 2 AC lawn and garden tractors and a series 500 4 row AC corn planter.
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Jim,
You have a nice herd of Orange! Pictures???
Dave,
I know Don has or had that unit. Would be very nice and I am spoiled!
Must try to get some much needed sleep now.
Regards,
Chris
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Posted: 07 Nov 2017 at 11:02am |
Good morning Chris!  Yes, I do have a small herd. I do have pics of where they sit, but not in the same spot. Have the NF WD patiently waiting to get running again, but life started happening after I got her here, which took a few $$ and time. Now time is the commodity. With a 10 yr old blessing of a daughter, I'm not missing out on anything in her life. I'll get to it eventually. My D17 is also patiently waiting for her new brakes to go back in. My other WD wf with the 45 crank just needs fresh gas and points cleaned up and it'll be running. Then some nickel and dime things to fix as I can like gaskets and such. Dad's 45 with the Freeman loaded pops right off every time as long as there's juice in the battery. I need to get the alternator checked out. I got started on the AC L&G 914H to find out that it didn't have fire anywhere. Going to have to go inside the shroud on the Kohler. So, it's a time involved project as well. My 712S just needs a tube in the rear tire and a cone for the pto to run the tiller and mower. Being the popular guy that I am, my time is very limited for this kind of fun out in the weather & no shop to work in. Glad to see the headway that you're making. |
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Jim,
Great bunch of tractors you have. Sounds like it could keep you busy for several days!:)
Spend time with your daughter!
UPDATE on the 45!
On my way to Wexford Wed we made a side trip to Sandy Lake Implement and picked up some parts for the 45. Talked to Brenda and got a new calendar.
air cleaner cup, air hose, brake springs .....
Just some things to get it buttoned up for winter. I hope the weather is better, or I am going to have to move Cheryl's car out and bring it in the garage. I have to pull the air cleaner and remove the mesh for cleaning.
I am tentatively scheduled for back surgery on Friday after Thanksgiving. Hoping I can get back to to more normal life in the near future.
Regards,
Chris
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good luck with the back surgery, keep us posted after! and I like that tractor, you been doin a good job on it!
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Chris, yes good luck with the back surgery and make sure to do all the Dr. tell you, been there and done that 30 yrs ago but getting where I need to do it again (didn't behaved myself) . I also like following your post with all the picture and stories. Kenny L.
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