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    Posted: 24 Apr 2017 at 10:50am
Does anybody have a flat rate manual for a series IV D 17?
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lookin for info or to buy one?

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thats somthing that interest's me also for all colors
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I have something, it's a black book. But I don't think it's new enough for series IV
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Originally posted by Acdiesel Acdiesel wrote:

lookin for info or to buy one?

dan

To buy
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Originally posted by Mikez Mikez wrote:

I have something, it's a black book. But I don't think it's new enough for series IV

I have one for the series I and II. The series IV is a lot different.
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Not sure there ever was one. The One-Seventy would be pretty close.
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Originally posted by DrAllis DrAllis wrote:

Not sure there ever was one. The One-Seventy would be pretty close.

That's what I was thinking as well
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I've got all brands, that I&T printed, back in the 80's.  Don't wanna sell the set, but, what are you planning?
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I'm rebuilding the power Director and need to know what the rate is for splitting the tractor and rebuilding the Power director.

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I have one that covers D-17,D-14,D-10,D-12,WD,WD-45,CA,G tractors form TL-711A.
And one that covers, ONE-SEVENTY,ONE-EIGHTY,ONE-NINETY,ONE-NINETY XT and D-21 form TL-2705
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Originally posted by Mikez Mikez wrote:

I have one that covers D-17,D-14,D-10,D-12,WD,WD-45,CA,G tractors form TL-711A.
And one that covers, ONE-SEVENTY,ONE-EIGHTY,ONE-NINETY,ONE-NINETY XT and D-21 form TL-2705
 I have them as well. Maybe Allis didn't have one for the D-17 series IV.
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Yea maybe. The other one I have is H-3,HD-3,D-15,D-19 form TL-2510
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 Think I need to be more clear what I'm doing.  I'm repairing Allis tractors for people and I want to be fair to my customers and myself. So to make sure I do my part in a timely manner I'm using the labor times out of the "Flat Rate Manual" .  I'm currently working on a D-17 IV. This is why I'm looking for a manual that covers the D-17 IV.
 Hopes this makes some kind of sense.



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Ok I got ya
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Dennis, I'll look, and see what the I&T blue book says...
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Dennis, I found the I&T flat rate book, from the 1985 AC 34 manual, it says for J9, PD clutch Gas 6.2, Diesel, 6.7hrs.  I think this if the tractor is already split.  J31, complete overhaul, is 11.5 hrs.  I think the second one includes splitting.  I&T manuals ain't very wordy, anyway...Wink
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even that ITflat rate book  is pretty expensive., is there somthing to subscribe to like identifix and alldata like we use for the automobiles ?
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I have one.  It must include the IV, since I see a few times it states (except series IV).   I&T AC-30
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/I-T-Allis-Chalmers-D10-D21-160-190XT-220-5040-7060-Tractor-Flat-Rate-Manual-AC30-/172565900326?hash=item282dbaac26:g:vaIAAOSw4CFYvshY


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Thank you everyone for the info and your time. All of you have been a great help.
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