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LeonR2013
Orange Level Joined: 01 Jan 2013 Location: Fulton, Mo Points: 3500 |
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Hey Dale, that ain't the way to spell bloomers.
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doctorcorey
Orange Level Joined: 17 Jul 2011 Location: S. KC Missouri Points: 570 |
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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 29500 |
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Something else I am considering with moving brake pedals to a combined side is to remove so much of the throw on them. Brakes adjusted to spec they travel almost to the toe screen, adjusted any tighter and they drag. Already reduced the boost or actually allow the fluid pressure to relieve early on the assist as they were set WAYY TOO HIGH!! when I got the machine, ended up breaking a shoe early in ownership. Would really prefer for the brakes to be a lot lighter than currently and to be more sociable as to making turns rather than so abrupt.
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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 29500 |
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Awesome work as usual Mel, that is one hefty set of forks, Ulrich didn't make those too?!
Looks like you have a handle well attached for this mod and so glad it is working for you. My 7G has the delete on the ground speed as did the donor, all of those components are just plate covers on mine. Could see where that would be handy on steep inclines. |
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shameless dude
Orange Level Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13611 |
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I had to gits up to go pee....what's your scuse? oh...and I ain't smart nuff to post any pics on here, if I knew how, ya'll would see lots of my blunders and such! lol
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AC Mel
Orange Level Access Joined: 23 Jan 2010 Location: N.Ca. Points: 1099 |
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SHAMELESS!!! What are you doing up at this time of night? You know it might be a good time to post that picture...no one would see it now.
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shameless dude
Orange Level Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13611 |
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should be able to run that thing bare footed! lol
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AC Mel
Orange Level Access Joined: 23 Jan 2010 Location: N.Ca. Points: 1099 |
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PS...the right brake pedal will also be moved to be run by your left foot and the right foot will be for the decelerator pedal (like a mans tractor)...have a design for that ....but not this weekend.
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AC Mel
Orange Level Access Joined: 23 Jan 2010 Location: N.Ca. Points: 1099 |
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Dave....was hoping to beat you to the question.We made this a 4 day weekend hoping to get some ranch things done etc. We've spent the first day and half branding and moving cows and calves to our summer pasture. The other goal is to get this 7G moved to start loading firewood logs.
So.....that being said...we knew when we got your parts that they were not compatible with this model...but knew we would use them some where. So I used all of your parts in our re fabrication of the way we wanted it ....really,really happy with it. Some history...yes we know some AC stuff..Our father bought a HD9G and a HD5G new in the early 50s to load logs. Those of course were direct drive machines and very nice in there day. When David and I started our sand and gravel business in 1972 we migrated to rubber tired loaders....645s and later 745s...crawler loaders were not at the top of the chart anymore. When we decided to start logging again in the mid 70s we decided to try to upgrade to HD11B series dozers....powershift...with a decelerator pedal. The 7G was one of ACs first powershifts...and had the ground speed govenor with whatever else they though they needed. After thousands of hours on 11Bs...I can't imagine not having the same system....and the biggest problem is I can't call anyone...cause there's no one left!!!! So this is my design...I used the floor board and the pedal....the red pieces are welded to the bottom to hold the linkage...welded 2 flanged 1/2'' nuts also Cut the top of the floorboard off a couple of inches and torched holes to fit the existing holes. The black pen marks are where the existing floor board will match. So the pieces should match up like this when installed. With the 2 nuts welded to the bottom bolted to the top pieces. This would show how it goes. This would be installed in the tractor....The linkage needs to be hooked up before the left floor board is installed. The 2 shiny bolts in the middle are pulling the bottom plate to the floorboard and the 2 at the top are in original holes for the floor board (one is not visible under the pedal) I made a longer 1/2'' shaft to accommodate the decelerator linkages. So Dave.....really, really happy with these parts. It gives us a pattern for fixing the other one also. So these are the forks of the other 7...gave them a bath and had to torch a pin out that was still in there at the bottom left. So,It's matched up and ready for pins. So.... going back to the grease fittings...some one torched 3 of the 4 ..but only one went through the inside bushing too..I might do that to all of them...and then weld some kind of grease fitting....for tomorrow they get a heavy dose of nevesieze (yeah,I know, probably where it will end) LOL. Have to make a pin to use...for the one I cut out....that's the chrome shaft that's showing. Hoping to get the forks on tomorrow...load it on the lowbed and move it about 3 miles to the back of the ranch. The Mrs.really wants to see some firewood soon! I'll take some videos...but seem to be out of photo space...I'll figure something out. Dave, Thanks again |
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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 29500 |
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How goes your conversion Mel, old tractor back to work?
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rickv57
Silver Level Joined: 15 Jan 2016 Location: 64024 Points: 199 |
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Nice-looking 7g loader Mel
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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 29500 |
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Well will be easier fix than not. Trans oil cooler line popped thru, was losing oil down the joint of the engine block to bell housing. Both lines off but will await to tomorrow to run up to Union MO to the hydraulics shop. May take the spare Cessna Eaton Trans pump and see if anything can be done with it as the one on my machine is weak.
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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 29500 |
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I did manage to get mine out for a little dirt work today, had a spoil pile in the back I wanted to move most of, did that then moved a load of concrete scraps to the back ditch. Got it back up to the shed and noticed an oil smell then saw the running leak off belly pan leaving a snail trail. Not certain where yet but parked machine for the time being. Bucket performed as well as expected.
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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 29500 |
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Even the GP off the donor had no lube points on the pins, just solid and square headed.
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AC Mel
Orange Level Access Joined: 23 Jan 2010 Location: N.Ca. Points: 1099 |
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Very interesting.....maybe it was the standard feature that came with the 'worlds ugliest heaviest bucket' LOL. That would be the common thread here. We'll have to figure something out....when that squeaking starts I go bizerk.
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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 29500 |
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My 7G has fittings at all but those four points too. Not one of the four bucket pins is lubed or drilled to take lube or the curl arms drilled, even the curl arms are solid at the bucket end off the donor I have.
Not one fitting to either tractor and now yours. |
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AC Mel
Orange Level Access Joined: 23 Jan 2010 Location: N.Ca. Points: 1099 |
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Well....I'm 'HAPPY' the dam buckets off. So..back to the grease fittings..was going to run this by you anyway. The parts book indicates those bushings (4) are the same...the (4) pins are the same...the pins are supposed to have grease fittings in them...these don't...they appear to be the right ones. Spent quite some time cleaning one looking for the holes for grease...not there...assuming they got changed out....also appears that some one torched the boom arms and dump arms where the grease fittings would be...if they were out there....where are your grease fittings?
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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 29500 |
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Little tractor actually looks 'Happy' that damned bucket is OFF!! My 7 had what I thought were thick wall bronze bushings in the curl arms, no rust on them and appeared to be a copper-ish color, could be wrong. No grease fittings either, the lowers were steel but in fine shape.
Good to know the other one won't be a strictly donor tractor as my second is. |
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AC Mel
Orange Level Access Joined: 23 Jan 2010 Location: N.Ca. Points: 1099 |
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Merv... No problem...glad you ask. The "bush 7G" was the first one we acquired. It was many years ago and was in Oregon...it was a 3 day trip for Dave..but went well. The rails,pins and bushings are totally wasted...grousers are not that bad. The turbo is gone...and it did not steer. The engine did run ok. It needs sprockets...at least 1 for sure...those are hard to find.. somebody in Texas still makes weld on rims that we keep saying were going to order. We have rails that we can use....IT WILL NOT BE A COMPLETE DONOR TRACTOR!!!! I have borrowed some parts for this 7G that is ready for work. We have some projects for that winch....so we would like to restore it to good usable condition.
So I got the "mans torch" out today for "the Melvin Method" of removing uncooperative bucket pins. Dave mentioned bronze bushings....these are steel and after applying lots of BTUs the bushing was still stuck to the pin....end of story..I win The "WORLDS HEAVIEST UGLIEST BUCKET" has been carried to storage in section 7G in the donor tractor parts inventory. So...we're up on blocks and ready to drop the pans and have a bath. |
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HD6 Merv
Silver Level Access Joined: 03 Aug 2010 Location: New Zealand Points: 476 |
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Whoa here Mr Mel
What is the story with the bush rigged HD7G; yes the one with the forks, AND the powershift E30 winch on its tail that my eagle eyes have spotted Whats the matter with her ?? Would be a very useful machine for woodlot work. Or is the 'new' 7G to take her place ?. . . . And. . .what are you doing with that E30PS winch ? They are quite rare to find these days; although must have been a few sold in the days when 6ep and 7G machines were sold. Yes we are nosey people us kiwi,s Cheers and thanks
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tits tyres and tracks
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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 29500 |
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This is where I sat mine off, in the position I set it off Mel, tools used alongside.
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DMiller
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I had better luck rolling mine flat(set to dig) and taking all the load off the pins. Came out with a light hit from a four pound hammer(used it thinking would be worse). Once the lock pins are out the only resistance should be the friction between smooth pin(maybe grooved) and the bronze pivot bushing.
And YES, these are some really UGLY buckets!! Good luck Mel. Edited by DMiller - 23 Jun 2017 at 6:23am |
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AC Mel
Orange Level Access Joined: 23 Jan 2010 Location: N.Ca. Points: 1099 |
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So....Dave I know we have the 2 "worlds ugliest HD7G buckets"
The 4 pins holding it on are EXTREMELY UNCOOPERATIVE!! (right down to I'm about to get the mans torch out) Had a few minutes this afternoon to take this bucket off.....but nooooo.... It was 110 degrees here today but only 108 when I started the bucket job. Only supposed to be 105 tomorrow.....so I'll get it done when it cools down.(LOL) These are the forks to put on....have already been removed from this 7G |
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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 29500 |
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Headsup Mel, when you go to drop this monster 4/1 you may want to add a pair of iron braces on the back to level with the flat bottom or weld small box pipe or I-beam on the bottom sticking out the back. As the buckets roll back when parked is because they are so off balance to the rear. I blocked mine with it sitting on pallets but is only temporary until I can cut some steel for braces to weld on to keep it from rolling to its backside.
Edited by DMiller - 03 May 2017 at 9:14am |
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Lazyts
Orange Level Joined: 05 Feb 2012 Location: Manitoba Points: 627 |
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I've gotten a few parts from Doug at Tri City Tractor over the years. Sounds like his selection of parts is pretty picked over now. He told me they had dismantled over 30 HD11s for parts. I also bought an SEC attachment, which came from just down the street from him, seems like.
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HD6 Merv
Silver Level Access Joined: 03 Aug 2010 Location: New Zealand Points: 476 |
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yep it certainly has a modified air cleaner that was done for some reason. Pics and storys Mel.
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tits tyres and tracks
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donoman
Silver Level Joined: 18 Feb 2015 Location: New Zealand Points: 117 |
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Looks like the HD6 Merv is reffering to has a 7000 motor in it, can we have some pic's, I'm in the process of doing the same to my HD6E.
Cheers
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SteveM C/IL
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Shelbyville IL Points: 7981 |
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isn't that rt track on backwards?
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Ray54
Orange Level Access Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Paso Robles, Ca Points: 4346 |
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Shameless change your directions a little,Darrel has a HD5 that I could us. Maybe distract Mel by showing him a HD 14 C with Garwood blade. A genuine ran when parked some time in the 80's was started in the 90's and torch converter was rusted up.
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HD6 Merv
Silver Level Access Joined: 03 Aug 2010 Location: New Zealand Points: 476 |
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whats with the 'treasure' on the left side of the first pic of the HD7G boys ??
Is a HD6 for sure and looks like a EP to me, as can,t see any master clutch lever that a 6E would have ?? Nosey people need to see a pic of that too ! Cheers |
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tits tyres and tracks
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