Allis WD NFE (Was Dads)

L,
Take and post some pictures of your tractor project please!
Regards,
 Chris
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j.w.freck wrote: sugarmaker.....I noticed you had one of your rear rims split.did you turn it to a 16.9 rim or just do a repair?i have a 45 diesel puller I want to add a section to widen the rim for a 16.9 tire.how much trouble was it to break the slide bars loose? thx.....

J.W.
The rim was cut in half to replace one half that was rusted very bad. I did not widen the rim.
Here is one area to look for. Check the rail construction to the rim, are they welded with a bead on the rail sides or resistance welded through the rim? If welded on the outside (bead of weld) then you can carefully cut into the weld and separate them.  If the rim was built with spot welding process it is going to just about ruin that side of the rim to save the rails or the donor rim replacement. (I have not done a spot welded (resistance welded) rim repair.
You might look at D17 rims I think they are made wider, to handle your tires or combine rims might be the ticket too?
Regards,
 Chris

Folks,
 I made a run at these rear wheels for Dad's WD today. Some shots as to how I assemble them. No one ever taught me, so this is my method. Seems to work.

I tape the rail contact item into the bracket. The tape will be removed after the brackets are in place.


Wheel stops are ready. Note to self: check the holes and make sure they are not full of rust in the rails.


Add the first bracket to the wheel finger tight. Make sure the ecentric is in the unlocked position ( turned counter clockwise).


Stand the rim/tire about vertical with the rail holes at the bottom.


Install the rail stops and tighten.


I then set the wheel and first bracket in between these stops and reach through the center of the rim to install the bolts in the next bracket. (sorry my hands were full holding the wheel prior to the second bracket being installed).


After all the brackets are installed, remove the tape holding the contact metal parts in place.




All brackets in position with bolts finger tight. I tighten all four eccentrics about half way. then tighted the 8 nuts on the bracket bolts to the wheel.


Then tighten the eccentrics to full lock.
I wiped down the tires with Bleach White product just to get the dust off.
Touched up some paint issues and set them aside.




Back on the tractor.


I did find it today, and was able to raise it and attach my rear support which allows me to safely clean the castings and start inspections. Also allows me to install the new final drive bearing races, and the wheels will be able to be installed at a later date.

Regards,
 Chris









Edited by Sugarmaker - 13 Jan 2015 at 8:16pm

Cool pics. Ours is down to the cast iron too, but we don't have the back wheels off.    

Oh ok I see(: I had not seen that one either.

LSilseth wrote: What does (NEF) mean? I have never heard that before. I am working on a WD-45 right now(: it is our first restoration project.

LSileth,
Sorry brain was in neutral, I meant NFE (Narrow Front End).
Regards,
 Chris

What does (NEF) mean? I have never heard that before.

Folks,
Just a brief update as we move slowly forward;

 I think there is a WD tractor in here somewhere? I have never been known for keeping a immaculate shop and it sure shows here


After a good wire brushing, some fresh Persian Orange has been applied on the 8 brackets for the wheels to mount to the rims. These will be taken apart and never seize will be applied to the moving pins before assembly.


Rim stops for the rails. These will get some never seize on the threads and shank also.


Cam contact for the eccentric to rail


Dusty tires, 13.9-28's and rims ready for the wheels.


Outside of the stove bolt type rim bolts (Persian Orange) using the Krylon 1820 rattle cans at this point for small items. A little pricy but very convenient. Going to use the old hardware nuts, some are a quite pitted as you can see. Just have to draw the line somewhere from a cost standpoint I think. I can't do this like Steve @B&B


Inside head of rim bolts are cream color (Rustoleum Antique White) to match the rim color.


It was a year ago when I took these rear tires and rusty rims off Dad's WD. Twas a project getting them unmounted, rims sandblasted, cutting the rims apart and welding in repairs and painting, new tubes installed and tires remounted. Glad I did not have to get new rubber also, that was expensive enough:) I did not do the unmounted and remount work. I had local tire shop do that. Was easier for me and they never scratched the paint.
 I do know that when I got these tire assemblies done and assembled on Jacks WD tractor, it was a major milestone in the restoration process! They are just big bulky, needed major repairs and have a lot of components to get them back together. Really glad I brought these along through at the same time I did the other two!
By the way these are not filled tires. If I was going to fill them it would be the new beet juice product after they are in place on the tractor.
With some luck I may be able to get these rear wheel/rim assemblies together and moved outside under a tarp soon. Providing some much needed work space around the tractor for some next moves.
Hope things are good in tractor land! Thanks for following my ramlbin'.
Regards,
 Chris






Edited by Sugarmaker - 13 Jan 2015 at 11:58am

Folks,
 Ted got me moving a little today.
I wire brushed and primed the 8 brackets from the wheel to the rim.  Also the eccentric pins and the little blocks that ride on the eccentrics.
When those get some color I should be able to assemble the wheels and rims and move those out of the garage for some much needed room around the WD.
Pulled out most of the sheet metal and blew the dust off those. Also cleaned up a little around the WD. I can almost see it again.
Thanks again Ted J.
Regards,
 Chris


Edited by Sugarmaker - 11 Jan 2015 at 3:42pm

SHAMELESS wrote: I saw a new manifold for sale on Omaha ne craigs list if yer lookin

Shameless,
I think I am good right now. Thanks!
Regards,
 Chris

I think he means the one that is rusted clear off.

Bill Long wrote: Thanks for saving another Allis Chalmers WD tractor.  Especially your father's.  I know these family tractors have a very special meaning.  I always wanted the first Flat Top WC my father sold.  I did know where it was located but - much to my regret - did not follow up on it.  I still kick myself to this day. Good Luck! Bill Long

Bill,
Man that would be nice if you could find that WC flat top. ( I need to brush up on my WC's as I wouldn't know a flat top if it fell on me:))
Thanks! I wasn't to interested in this family tractor about 6 years ago. It just needed so much work. My uncle gave me a price on it and I did not bite, thought it was a little steep. When I finally did by it from his wife, I paid almost what he was asking anyway and now am very pleased that it is setting in the garage.
I was offered both of the WD45s that my Dad had also. that was 15 years ago. It was part of a family feud at that time and I really did not have the time or funds or need for them. Now I realize its not need its "want" :) Wonder if they still exist? Hummm???:)
Regards,
Chris


Edited by Sugarmaker - 13 Jan 2015 at 11:51am

Just out of curiousity why did they cut that one fender down like that? didnt make any sense to me. Was there a purpose to it?

sugar maker,you will cherish and appreciate that tractor more than any you own.i have the wd-45 I drove home from the allis dealer in 1956 when I was a junior in high school.got it when dad got killed on the farm about 9 years ago.never left the farms since brought new.....

B26240 wrote: Chris  Good for you saving a family tractor!!!  WD's are one of my favorites I have S/N 76000   (51)    Looks like you are doing a great job, keep us posted on your progress.  Mark

Mark,
Thats a cool serial number on your WD and easy to remember. Do you have a wide, narrow or single front end?

Still learning a lot about these WD's.They are starting to grow on me!  I have to round up the serial numbers on these tractors. Hummm, maybe I did post them on here some where? There is a listing somewhere right? Maybe on the home page?

I really did try to work on some of the same parts this summer and fall when I was doing the other WD. So I do have a little bit of a jump on things. This time last year the rear rims were not even started. They are complete now with tires re-mounted and ready for the wheels to be installed.
Trying to decide if the engine should come out for a good look at all the seals and to see how it looks? That would be the right thing to do, not that I always do the right thing in life:) Then I could do the pan gasket work and the front cover gasket as Don(MO) suggests.
Would be a great reason for me to get a HF engine stand. and get my engine hoist base back from my grandson. Yea that's a plan!

Regards,
 Chris