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tornado8070
Orange Level Joined: 24 Mar 2013 Location: MI Points: 1341 |
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Lynn I have asked that question several times on the forum. I could never get a engine model number.
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09’ DT205B, 08’ DT220A, 83' 8070 MFWD, 83’ 8070 85’ 8050 MFWD, 83' 8030, 82' 8010, 85’ 6080 MFWD, 84’ 6080, 79' 7020, 85' M3 RWD, 85' 920 diesel,AC C-50 forklift.
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DougS
Orange Level Joined: 03 Nov 2011 Location: Iowa Points: 2490 |
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It would be nice to know which engines would bolt in directly.
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ILGLEANER
Orange Level Access Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Willow Hill,ILL Points: 6442 |
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Lynn, and Brad. Call that number Burgie put on. Everett,and Brian have 2 8095s. They have the komotsu in one of them. This is nothing special at all. We will see how stupid people are on this one. Everett and Brian are going to sell one of , if not both of the 8095s they have. If your ever down there stop in and see them, won't find nicer guys. But you better have your drinking shoes on !!!!!
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DSeries4
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Points: 7252 |
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Norm's book mentioned a 673 cubic inch Komatsu.
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'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080
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DougS
Orange Level Joined: 03 Nov 2011 Location: Iowa Points: 2490 |
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The Komatsu 6D125 series has 674 cubic inches. It is 300+ HP.
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DougG
Orange Level Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Mo Points: 7984 |
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Drinking shoes on,,,,,,, lets go !
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tornado8070
Orange Level Joined: 24 Mar 2013 Location: MI Points: 1341 |
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IG I never asked the details on the komatsu but I priced the 8095! We may have to form a syndicate to own one! And drink till someone falls of the table....which will probly be myself! Lmao
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09’ DT205B, 08’ DT220A, 83' 8070 MFWD, 83’ 8070 85’ 8050 MFWD, 83' 8030, 82' 8010, 85’ 6080 MFWD, 84’ 6080, 79' 7020, 85' M3 RWD, 85' 920 diesel,AC C-50 forklift.
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tornado8070
Orange Level Joined: 24 Mar 2013 Location: MI Points: 1341 |
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Was figuring I needed a 4W220 8095 and the 6070 last built to complete my collection! Hope my lotto ticket hits soon!!!!
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09’ DT205B, 08’ DT220A, 83' 8070 MFWD, 83’ 8070 85’ 8050 MFWD, 83' 8030, 82' 8010, 85’ 6080 MFWD, 84’ 6080, 79' 7020, 85' M3 RWD, 85' 920 diesel,AC C-50 forklift.
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427435
Orange Level Joined: 18 Nov 2010 Location: SE Minnesota Points: 18637 |
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The more I think about this tractor, the more I think it is a con job. The special, custom decal they had made is one part of it. Nor do I know why the Proving Grounds would have stamped 8095-4 on the rear end-----------it was a stock 7080/8070 rear end from production. There was no need to stamp anything on it. It is just an amalgamation of parts pieced together---------kind of like a junk yard special. I wonder what the wiring and plumbing look like? |
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Mark
B10 Allis, 917 Allis, 7116 Simplicity, 7790 Simplicity Diesel, GTH-L Simplicity Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not. |
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427435
Orange Level Joined: 18 Nov 2010 Location: SE Minnesota Points: 18637 |
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The engine that was in the prototypes was (I believe) 643 cubic inches. As is common with engine builders, that grew to 673 cubic inches at some later date. At 225 pto hp, it was derated quite a bit, but it sure had torque back-up!!! |
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Mark
B10 Allis, 917 Allis, 7116 Simplicity, 7790 Simplicity Diesel, GTH-L Simplicity Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not. |
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Daehler
Orange Level Access Joined: 23 Nov 2010 Location: Lexington MO Points: 1153 |
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I talked to Brian this morning, he said the rear end and transmission should be out of the 8095. Everything else is an 8070 so I was wrong on the front axle being off the 8095. If the transmission is a powershift like the pictures show then its been changed at some time.
To mark on the serial, I know the gleaner side labeled the experimental test machines. The Test R50s had N4 for them seven were produced with that |
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8070FWA,7080 BlackBelly, 7045,2 200s,D19,D17,G, WD,45,UC,7 AC mowers and lots more!
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427435
Orange Level Joined: 18 Nov 2010 Location: SE Minnesota Points: 18637 |
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If special numbers were put on prototypes, they would most likely have been in the same area as production SN's.
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Mark
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Peterson
Orange Level Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Location: Westboro, Wi Points: 862 |
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I'd like to know what else that front axle was used on. Guessing some tractor across the pond.
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7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2
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DrAllis
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 19719 |
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The N-4 (and N-3) combines had probably been tested somewhat with A-C engines on them. Then, when Deutz owned the company, they got retrofitted for the air-cooled engines. I went thru a Plant tour in Summer of 1985 ?? and saw an area with the 70inch processor being fabbed up and a cardboard sign said "N-4". Our Tour Guide hollered at me to stay out of that area !!
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Peterson
Orange Level Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Location: Westboro, Wi Points: 862 |
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So seen the 8070 experimental today. The rear end is stamped 8095. Doesn't have any other serial numbers stamped. The original rear end fill is plugged and welded or brazed shut, and a different fill on the left hand side top welded or brazed to the casting with a dip stick. The front axle and pivot are completely different from the original axles. Otherwise the rest of the tractor is 8070.
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7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2
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Peterson
Orange Level Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Location: Westboro, Wi Points: 862 |
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7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2
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Daehler
Orange Level Access Joined: 23 Nov 2010 Location: Lexington MO Points: 1153 |
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The serial is in the right place for the 8095. :) Is the tractor number 1002? Looks like it from the picture. I wish I had the money cause that tractor is calling my name. Bout the only thing that makes it worth anything more is those numbers stamped in it.
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8070FWA,7080 BlackBelly, 7045,2 200s,D19,D17,G, WD,45,UC,7 AC mowers and lots more!
"IT TAKES 3 JD's TO OUT DO AN ALLIS, 2 TO MATCH IT IN THE FIELD AND 1 FOR PARTS!" |
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GreenOrange
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Wisconsin Points: 827 |
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I saw the same thing. It is stamped 8095FSN1002, so I'm assuming the 2nd of the 4 prototypes built. They seemed to be pretty open, describing it for what it is - the remains of an 8095 that they built into an 8070.
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