This site is not affiliated with AGCO Inc., Duluth GA., Allis-Chalmers Co., Milwaukee, WI., or any surviving or related corporate entity. All trademarks remain the property of their respective owners. All information presented herein should be considered the result of an un-moderated public forum with no responsibility for its accuracy or usability assumed by the users and sponsors of this site or any corporate entity.
The Forum Parts and Services Unofficial Allis Store Tractor Shows Serial Numbers History
Forum Home Forum Home > Allis Chalmers > Farm Equipment
  New Posts New Posts
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login


8070 experimental

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <123
Author
Message
tornado8070 View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 24 Mar 2013
Location: MI
Points: 1341
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tornado8070 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Aug 2016 at 9:02am
Lynn I have asked that question several times on the forum. I could never get a engine model number.

Edited by tornado8070 - 06 Aug 2016 at 9:03am
09’ DT205B, 08’ DT220A, 83' 8070 MFWD, 83’ 8070 85’ 8050 MFWD, 83' 8030, 82' 8010, 85’ 6080 MFWD, 84’ 6080, 79' 7020, 85' M3 RWD, 85' 920 diesel,AC C-50 forklift.
Back to Top
Sponsored Links


Back to Top
DougS View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 03 Nov 2011
Location: Iowa
Points: 2490
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DougS Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Aug 2016 at 9:28am
It would be nice to know which engines would bolt in directly.
Back to Top
ILGLEANER View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access


Joined: 13 Sep 2009
Location: Willow Hill,ILL
Points: 6442
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ILGLEANER Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Aug 2016 at 9:31am
Lynn, and Brad. Call that number Burgie put on. Everett,and Brian have 2 8095s. They have the komotsu in one of them. This is nothing special at all. We will see how stupid people are on this one. Everett and Brian are going to sell one of , if not both of the 8095s they have. If your ever down there stop in and see them, won't find nicer guys. But you better have your drinking shoes on !!!!!
Education doesn't make you smart, it makes you educated.
Back to Top
DSeries4 View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Ontario, Canada
Points: 7252
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DSeries4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Aug 2016 at 9:31am
Norm's book mentioned a 673 cubic inch Komatsu.  
'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080
Back to Top
DougS View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 03 Nov 2011
Location: Iowa
Points: 2490
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DougS Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Aug 2016 at 10:00am
The Komatsu 6D125 series has 674 cubic inches. It is 300+ HP.
Back to Top
DougG View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 20 Sep 2009
Location: Mo
Points: 7984
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DougG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Aug 2016 at 10:46am
Drinking shoes on,,,,,,, lets go !
Back to Top
tornado8070 View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 24 Mar 2013
Location: MI
Points: 1341
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tornado8070 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Aug 2016 at 11:09am
IG I never asked the details on the komatsu but I priced the 8095! We may have to form a syndicate to own one! And drink till someone falls of the table....which will probly be myself! Lmao
09’ DT205B, 08’ DT220A, 83' 8070 MFWD, 83’ 8070 85’ 8050 MFWD, 83' 8030, 82' 8010, 85’ 6080 MFWD, 84’ 6080, 79' 7020, 85' M3 RWD, 85' 920 diesel,AC C-50 forklift.
Back to Top
tornado8070 View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 24 Mar 2013
Location: MI
Points: 1341
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tornado8070 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Aug 2016 at 11:19am
Was figuring I needed a 4W220 8095 and the 6070 last built to complete my collection! Hope my lotto ticket hits soon!!!!
09’ DT205B, 08’ DT220A, 83' 8070 MFWD, 83’ 8070 85’ 8050 MFWD, 83' 8030, 82' 8010, 85’ 6080 MFWD, 84’ 6080, 79' 7020, 85' M3 RWD, 85' 920 diesel,AC C-50 forklift.
Back to Top
427435 View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 18 Nov 2010
Location: SE Minnesota
Points: 18637
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 427435 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Aug 2016 at 12:05pm

The more I think about this tractor, the more I think it is a con job.  The special, custom decal they had made is one part of it.  Nor do I know why the Proving Grounds would have stamped 8095-4 on the rear end-----------it was a stock 7080/8070 rear end from production.  There was no need to stamp anything on it.

It is just an amalgamation of parts pieced together---------kind of like a junk yard special. 

I wonder what the wiring and plumbing look like?  Shocked
Mark

B10 Allis, 917 Allis, 7116 Simplicity, 7790 Simplicity Diesel,
GTH-L Simplicity

Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not.
Back to Top
427435 View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 18 Nov 2010
Location: SE Minnesota
Points: 18637
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 427435 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Aug 2016 at 12:15pm
Originally posted by DSeries4 DSeries4 wrote:

Norm's book mentioned a 673 cubic inch Komatsu.  



The engine that was in the prototypes was (I believe) 643 cubic inches.  As is common with engine builders, that grew to 673 cubic inches at some later date.  At 225 pto hp, it was derated quite a bit, but it sure had torque back-up!!!  Clap
Mark

B10 Allis, 917 Allis, 7116 Simplicity, 7790 Simplicity Diesel,
GTH-L Simplicity

Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not.
Back to Top
Daehler View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access


Joined: 23 Nov 2010
Location: Lexington MO
Points: 1153
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Daehler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Aug 2016 at 1:15pm
I talked to Brian this morning, he said the rear end and transmission should be out of the 8095. Everything else is an 8070 so I was wrong on the front axle being off the 8095. If the transmission is a powershift like the pictures show then its been changed at some time.
To mark on the serial, I know the gleaner side labeled the experimental test machines. The Test R50s had N4 for them seven were produced with that
8070FWA,7080 BlackBelly, 7045,2 200s,D19,D17,G, WD,45,UC,7 AC mowers and lots more!
"IT TAKES 3 JD's TO OUT DO AN ALLIS, 2 TO MATCH IT IN THE FIELD AND 1 FOR PARTS!"
Back to Top
427435 View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 18 Nov 2010
Location: SE Minnesota
Points: 18637
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 427435 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Aug 2016 at 11:48pm
If special numbers were put on prototypes, they would most likely have been in the same area as production SN's.
Mark

B10 Allis, 917 Allis, 7116 Simplicity, 7790 Simplicity Diesel,
GTH-L Simplicity

Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not.
Back to Top
Peterson View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 05 Mar 2011
Location: Westboro, Wi
Points: 862
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Peterson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Aug 2016 at 6:49am
I'd like to know what else that front axle was used on. Guessing some tractor across the pond.
7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2
Back to Top
DrAllis View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access


Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Points: 19719
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DrAllis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Aug 2016 at 9:13am
The N-4 (and N-3) combines had probably been tested somewhat with A-C engines on them. Then, when Deutz owned the company, they got retrofitted for the air-cooled engines. I went thru a Plant tour in Summer of 1985 ?? and saw an area with the 70inch processor being fabbed up and a cardboard sign said "N-4". Our Tour Guide hollered at me to stay out of that area !!
Back to Top
Peterson View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 05 Mar 2011
Location: Westboro, Wi
Points: 862
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Peterson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Aug 2016 at 4:20pm
So seen the 8070 experimental today. The rear end is stamped 8095. Doesn't have any other serial numbers stamped. The original rear end fill is plugged and welded or brazed shut, and a different fill on the left hand side top welded or brazed to the casting with a dip stick. The front axle and pivot are completely different from the original axles. Otherwise the rest of the tractor is 8070.
7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2
Back to Top
Peterson View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 05 Mar 2011
Location: Westboro, Wi
Points: 862
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Peterson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Aug 2016 at 4:30pm
No other serial numbers here.


Stamped 8095.
7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2
Back to Top
Daehler View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access


Joined: 23 Nov 2010
Location: Lexington MO
Points: 1153
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Daehler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Aug 2016 at 6:21pm
The serial is in the right place for the 8095. :) Is the tractor number 1002? Looks like it from the picture. I wish I had the money cause that tractor is calling my name. Bout the only thing that makes it worth anything more is those numbers stamped in it.
8070FWA,7080 BlackBelly, 7045,2 200s,D19,D17,G, WD,45,UC,7 AC mowers and lots more!
"IT TAKES 3 JD's TO OUT DO AN ALLIS, 2 TO MATCH IT IN THE FIELD AND 1 FOR PARTS!"
Back to Top
GreenOrange View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: Wisconsin
Points: 827
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GreenOrange Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Aug 2016 at 8:36pm
I saw the same thing.  It is stamped 8095FSN1002, so I'm assuming the 2nd of the 4 prototypes built.  They seemed to be pretty open, describing it for what it is - the remains of an 8095 that they built into an 8070.

Edited by GreenOrange - 20 Aug 2016 at 8:36pm
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <123
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 11.10
Copyright ©2001-2017 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.031 seconds.


Help Support the
Unofficial Allis Forum